U Chicago offers a great four-year program studying the "Great Books of the Western World". Meets weekly online for 3hr discussion-based seminars with some wonderful facilitators and ~12 peers. Registration open for a few more weeks: graham.uchicago.edu/program/basic-
I recently completed the program. Some reflections:
I can't tell you exactly why I signed up for this program. It sounded like a chance for ongoing encounters with beauty, I suppose. But also, some deep-down part of me harbored this delusion: "There are so many great classics I haven't read! So many great ideas I understand only shallowly. I can just sign up for this one program, and I'll end up checking so many metaphorical boxes!" In hindsight, I think I related to this mountain of books like a naive American tourist visiting Europe for the first time. I'll book a whirlwind guided tour to "check off" all the must-see sites! Then, in some sense, I'll be done with them!
That frame is obviously idiotic, both emotionally and practically. After about a thousand hours of reading and discussion, I don't feel I've truly understood or mostly metabolized almost any of these books. Rather, I got something like that naive tourist would: initial familiarity and connection with a wide range of cultural touchstones. The list of authors and works, once an abstract index, is now vivid and personal. Once I'd visited the Sagrada Familia, the idea of "checking it off" some kind of touristic bucket list became absurd. Instead, now that I'm introduced, I want to return again and again, noticing more and deepening my connection to it. Having finished my whirlwind tour, I now know where I'd like to return and linger on future trips. (Lucretius, Locke, Rousseau, Nietzsche...)
Programs like this call themselves "Great Books" programs, but I they're really more like "Great Ideas" programs. The selections and juxtapositions are designed to trace certain lines of Western thought: who should rule and how, the role of individuals in society, the shifting basis of morality, the meanings of virtue, knowledge, and justice, etc etc. I just loved following these arcs. They situate the texts in a web of humanity: rather than a grab-bag of independent texts, the selection was a series of unfolding conversations spread across centuries and continents. I found it plainly thrilling, for instance, to follow the beginnings of liberalism from abstract philosophical treatises up to the bloody stakes of the Declaration of Independence.
Part of the thrill is: individuals made these things! You can read their words. You can bear witness, centuries hence, to the birth of Plato's Forms, or deontology, or the novel as a literary form. Yes, I'm willing to give due credit to their intellectual contexts, and to hang appropriate asterisks on "Great Man" interpretations of history. But still—just imagine being Darwin, writing that book. I get very inspired in my design work thinking about Mendeleev and Playfair and Viete, individual humans who created new representations of thought for science and mathematics. This pile of books helped me appreciate the miracle of individual human invention behind so much in Western thought.
(photo from a classmate—alas, I mostly read digitally, which in hindsight deprived me of the physicality of this memory)
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Wonderful reflections. Very curious to hear how you chose this program over, for examples. St. John's Year of Classics:
Oh. My. God... All the online sections for the fall semester are full! 😭😭😭😭
That was the shortest emotional roller coaster of my life: from incredible excitement to crushing disappointment in seconds...
Oh bummer! Sorry to hear it. I understand that if there’s enough waitlist they’ll open another section—happened for a course I’m taking with them now
Check out podcast for any brushing up! teaches in chronological order starting with Homer to help understand the context, time, and place of each work.
Assuming multiple sections are available, any idea how one might choose the professor? I’d imagine different ones have different styles?
Nice post! This popped up on my For You tab, and if I am not mistaken, you and I are in the same Wednesday night class that just started this past week? If so, see you in a few days lol. Always funny when the words collide 🍻
How was the peer group? Any lasting friendships across the years? Or collaborations?
Mostly retired professionals, much older. Friendliness and fellowship, but I wouldn't say friendships.
Thrilling idea, could you share a little more about the pace of the reading, how many pages per week, how much time you’d typically spend, insights on keeping the pace?
Sure. Readings usually took me 2-3 hours per week. Sometimes more like 1 or 4. Page count varies widely but a page of Aristotle is very different than a page of Shakespeare, etc.
I didn’t find it very hard to keep up. Though the weekly readings did offer an interesting barometer
Really interesting. I'm considering the masters program which seems to be a similar vibe (but that's once I'm done with my current masters)
It’s unfortunately already full until next year. At least that is what I was told.
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Thanks for sharing. I was not in the Great Books program at Pepperdine University, but many close friends were. And I consider myself a fellow traveler, since my studies there in political science and philosophy and dispute resolution oft overlapped in the Venn Diagram.
The Graham School! A neighbor of mine is on their board and is constantly taking interesting classes. He recently did a course on Ulysses where they went to Ireland at the end. It’s such a wonderful offering. I’d love to undertake it someday when I have a bit more time.
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Will you end up writing a longer blog about this? I'm always curious to hear how adult learners going through a great books course found it.
I took the Core Curriculum at Columbia as a second undergrad, and continued to its "third year" of colloquium courses in 1) Middle
I’m going into the 4th year. What an amazing program. I can’t wait to start the Alumni sequences
I graduated from the Basic Program this year too. One of the best educational experiences I’ve had. Glad to see you recommending it.
I'll drop the texts from those "third year" Columbia Core courses below and the selections we actually read:
**AHUM UN 1399 Colloquium on Major Works from Indian and Middle Eastern Cultures:**
Rig Veda; Upanishads; Buddhist Tradition; Bhagavad Gita; Ramayana; Kalidasa;
Well said but I beg you to not waste too much time on Locke and Rousseau at whose feet lay the ruins of modernity.
If you haven’t checked out yet, I’d recommend looking through their course listings—might be something there for your future trips.
Love the comment about the Sagrada Familia. I saw it for the first time in 2001. I've been back 4 times since and I need to again.
Curious if you explored other similar options and why you chose u of c. Any drawbacks/warnings? Who isn’t the program appropriate for?
1. now that it's done, do you wish you got physical books > ebooks?
2. top 5 books from this? (hard, i know)
What a cool experience and quite the accomplishment!
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great review! it's been in the back of my mind as something I want to do eventually, and this is helping push me over the edge to actually do it soon
Did you find a valuable protocol with SRS related to the great books? As far as how much to remember, what kinds of cards worked for this vs more technical content?
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